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. >>> a new government commission report finds that exporting the nation's new found surplus of natural gas would do the nation good citing the overall economic boost would outweigh higher domestic prices. >>> and economics team at virginia's lynchburg college crunched the numbers and found if the nation goes over the fiscal cliff, high income californians would beat out new yorkers and hawaiians for the potential highest tax rate at nearly 52%. >>> forbes is out with the 2012 most powerful people list. president obama held on to the top spot for a second year. the pope climbed two notches from last year. he is in fifth place. facebook's ceo mark zuckerburg went to number 25. former president clinton held on to number 50. and tonight be sure to watch brian williams sit down with tim cook. by the way, he's number 35 on the forbes list. >> finally, no, this is no joke. pizza hut in canada sent more than 100 bottles of pizza cented perfume to facebook fans. the fragrance boasts freshly baked hand tossed dough. >>> some optimistic news in the fight against breast cancer. women who took the
. >>> a new government commission report finds that exporting the nation's new found surplus of natural gas would do the nation good citing the overall economic boost would outweigh higher domestic prices. >>> and economics team at virginia's lynchburg college crunched the numbers and found if the nation goes over the fiscal cliff, high income californians would beat out new yorkers and hawaiians for the potential highest tax rate at nearly 52%. >>> forbes is out with...
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they have never adapted to having to govern. it's extraordinarily difficult to get a majority of his conference to go along with anything. the speaker has to jettison the rule, the majority of the majority rule where he won't take up anything without a majority of the republican conference. he can get something strongly bipartisan, but it may mean having to take on that conservative clique in his conference and say, look, we have responsibility to govern. we have responsibility to do the right thing, and the american people are counting on us and we have to acknowledge the argument we made against any kind of tax increase on upper income families, we've lost that fight and argument. it's time to come together and compromise. >> let me play what senator ron johnson said on cnn just this morning regarding the president and what he says the president is not understanding here. let's play it. >> this president just simply doesn't understand that, and so as a result he punishes success. we put at risk the economic growth that we real
they have never adapted to having to govern. it's extraordinarily difficult to get a majority of his conference to go along with anything. the speaker has to jettison the rule, the majority of the majority rule where he won't take up anything without a majority of the republican conference. he can get something strongly bipartisan, but it may mean having to take on that conservative clique in his conference and say, look, we have responsibility to govern. we have responsibility to do the right...
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representative of the people, clinton notes rebels are now able to hold their ground and take the fight to government forces. >> we have been deeply involved in helping to stand them up, and we're going to carefully consider what more we can do. >>> and on iran's nuclear ambitions, clinton says with the u.s. election over, now's the time to see if there's any hope for negotiating in good faith. >> there is still a window of opportunity to reach some kind of resolution. >>> and back here to main street, usa, a couple of great stories for you. yesterday in sandy-stricken new jersey and new york, a secret santa was handing out $100 bills. the anonymous missouri man sought out people who had been devastated by hurricane sandy. and while he plans to hand out $100,000 in total, he says it's not about the money. it's about committing random acts of kindness. >>> speaking of random acts, this new york city police officer did something incredibly kind for a homeless veteran in need. and he did it when he thought no one else was looking. >> reporter: it was a moment of kindness captured in a photograph. an nyp
representative of the people, clinton notes rebels are now able to hold their ground and take the fight to government forces. >> we have been deeply involved in helping to stand them up, and we're going to carefully consider what more we can do. >>> and on iran's nuclear ambitions, clinton says with the u.s. election over, now's the time to see if there's any hope for negotiating in good faith. >> there is still a window of opportunity to reach some kind of resolution....
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. >> i don't know much about the government. is that a good sign if they make a proposal? >> when you do that to me, i know you're not taking me seriously, right? >> sometimes getting really stupid offers, also not polite. >>> plus, an update on the condition of the former president george h.w. bush. he had a health scare in houston yesterday. we're going to tell you how he's doing this morning. >>> but first let's get to the news live at 5:30 here at 30 rock in new york city. this morning, president obama departs to pennsylvania where he will continue his campaign sales pitch on how to solve the country's fiscal challenges. yesterday treasury secretary tim geithner met with republicans to unveil the white house's budget proposal which includes $1.6 trillion in new tax revenue over ten years as well as $50 billion in additional stimulus spending. with limited details on spending cuts, the gop's reaction, less than encouraging. senator mitch mcconnell reportedly burst into laughter while geithner was in the middle of outlining obama's plan. and house speaker john boehner wh
. >> i don't know much about the government. is that a good sign if they make a proposal? >> when you do that to me, i know you're not taking me seriously, right? >> sometimes getting really stupid offers, also not polite. >>> plus, an update on the condition of the former president george h.w. bush. he had a health scare in houston yesterday. we're going to tell you how he's doing this morning. >>> but first let's get to the news live at 5:30 here at 30 rock...
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government and harvard university. if you talk about where ideas are coming from, and where sort of american innovation is headquartered, obama won it handily by 43% he won santa clara county where the high-tech companies are centered. >> sometimes stereotypes hold true, right? one of the things that's interesting in the context of the fiscal cliff also is where not only financial companies not just the takers, but where ceos around the country cast their lot. one of the things that's interesting as january 1st approaches is to see, you know, the hysteria on cnbc and how that's adjusted. >> we're not saying anything bad about cnbc but go ahead. >> but do ceos continue to push a kind of, you know, low taxes mantra, kind of traditional fiscal sort of republican mantra or do they really say, we need a deal here, we're really to give and push republicans in that direction. >> and it would seem like they are willing to come to the table and meet the white house -- i mean first of all they lost basically. threw their lot wit
government and harvard university. if you talk about where ideas are coming from, and where sort of american innovation is headquartered, obama won it handily by 43% he won santa clara county where the high-tech companies are centered. >> sometimes stereotypes hold true, right? one of the things that's interesting in the context of the fiscal cliff also is where not only financial companies not just the takers, but where ceos around the country cast their lot. one of the things that's...
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out there in terms of what the president believes that says that we need more spending, we are are government is the solution but i also remind you there's a world view that says we don't have a revenue problem. we have a spending problem, and that we should bring spending under control, obviously when you send proposals to the white house and the white house sends proposals to the house, there's no detail in those proposals, then we're still in the batter's box. we've not even gotten on base so i would encourage the president to send some details if he says $1.6 trillion more in revenue and we don't want to do anything on the entitlements and we'll do something on entitlements but don't want to propose or tell you what they are, then that makes it awfully difficult to come to the negotiating table and i remind republicans and democrats it's awfully difficult to, you know, get an agreement or to have confidence in handshake if you're trying to do it with your fist closed. >> trust but verify is the old phrase. >> that's true. >> this morning minority leader nancy pelosi highlighted the divers
out there in terms of what the president believes that says that we need more spending, we are are government is the solution but i also remind you there's a world view that says we don't have a revenue problem. we have a spending problem, and that we should bring spending under control, obviously when you send proposals to the white house and the white house sends proposals to the house, there's no detail in those proposals, then we're still in the batter's box. we've not even gotten on base...
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limb the deduction, close loopholes and have the same people pay more of their money to the federal government without raising tax rates. >> congresswoman, the "new york times" reporting today that boehner is enjoying the broadest support he has seen in two years but as you know, a lot of conservatives are very angry over his giving any ground on revenue. is the speaker's leadership still strong in your estimation? >> i think it is. and i know that it's a very tough position for our leader to be in. and especially tough when he cannot get the president to come to the table and in addition to that, we have the administration that keeps moving the goalpost. 2010 this very president said this is not the time when the economy is so bad to raise taxes on anyone yet now we're having him say he wants to raise taxes on small business own that's are going to affect about 700,000 jobs. is that really what we need to do in an economy where we have 23 million americans that are struggling for unemployment? this is the reason why we have to hold strong on this. the other this evening ng is we hear from the
limb the deduction, close loopholes and have the same people pay more of their money to the federal government without raising tax rates. >> congresswoman, the "new york times" reporting today that boehner is enjoying the broadest support he has seen in two years but as you know, a lot of conservatives are very angry over his giving any ground on revenue. is the speaker's leadership still strong in your estimation? >> i think it is. and i know that it's a very tough...
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>> in an ideal world for what he views as the role in government and his second term in legacy building, i think he wanted a grand bargain -- >> i think he does, too, so he can move on to the progressive stuff he wants to do. >> second terms don't last four years. >> right, right. >> no second term in the modern era has lasted four years. >> i know. >> it ends somewhere before two years. >> then you move into foreign policy. >> very quickly, chuck is right. if they get the tax rate increase on the wealthy, they declare victory and move on. we can argue debate that -- >> you're both educating me tonight. it's about taxes. the president can win this one before christmas. thank you, chuck todd and chris cillizza. >>> up next, the story no one is talking about at notre dame. some people are charging cover-up. this is going to be a hot one and not very pleasant for me. this is "hardball," the place for politics. ♪ [ male announcer ] jill and her mouth have lived a great life. but she has some dental issues she's not happy about. so i introduced jill to crest pro-health for life. selected f
>> in an ideal world for what he views as the role in government and his second term in legacy building, i think he wanted a grand bargain -- >> i think he does, too, so he can move on to the progressive stuff he wants to do. >> second terms don't last four years. >> right, right. >> no second term in the modern era has lasted four years. >> i know. >> it ends somewhere before two years. >> then you move into foreign policy. >> very quickly,...
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can they govern this country? the offer made this morning, the challenge i have with it, this is no different than the offer that was made six months ago or a years ago from my friends in washington from the president. so as much as -- but understand, you had republicans also in washington who wanted to do a deal. the speaker started off saying we can go with new revenue and give a real deal. now, the president, tim geithner, others are smart people. and i hope and trust they know what they're doing. but if i'm reading this this morning in memphis, tennessee, in pensacola, florida, i don't have a lot of confidence that progress is being made. if i'm a business owner or if i'm a voter or if i work for a large business anywhere in the country. that's what concerns me about this. >> i'm giving both sides the benefit of the doubt that they're going to make this deadline. i can't imagine they would want to make the faith in washington plunge even deeper than it already is. having said that, sam -- >> we're a step close
can they govern this country? the offer made this morning, the challenge i have with it, this is no different than the offer that was made six months ago or a years ago from my friends in washington from the president. so as much as -- but understand, you had republicans also in washington who wanted to do a deal. the speaker started off saying we can go with new revenue and give a real deal. now, the president, tim geithner, others are smart people. and i hope and trust they know what they're...
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but at the same time, we do have still divided government. and the composition of the house didn't change that much. and the composition of the senate, you know, democrats picked up a couple seats, but the basic, you know, political matrix has not fundamentally shifted. and for a lot of those republicans who were against -- who played their version of hardball in the summer of 2011, their internal politics haven't changed that much. so those tea party freshmen who are now not freshmen anymore, but they ran the same way in '12 as they ran in '10, their attitude is i don't have a mandate to raise taxes. the president can claim that mandate, fine. in my district, i don't have that mandate, and i've still ran on principle, and i'm going to stick to my guns. >> michael, off of that, when does the clock tick in john boehner's head and he says okay, look it, i've had it with this. i've got 75, 80 votes, whatever number of votes he has in his caucus that will go with him, and he says to the tea party republicans, fine. do what you want to do. i'm tak
but at the same time, we do have still divided government. and the composition of the house didn't change that much. and the composition of the senate, you know, democrats picked up a couple seats, but the basic, you know, political matrix has not fundamentally shifted. and for a lot of those republicans who were against -- who played their version of hardball in the summer of 2011, their internal politics haven't changed that much. so those tea party freshmen who are now not freshmen anymore,...
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you cut into state and local governments. you cut into a whole bunch of home mortgage. >> what about the buffett proposal? >> the buffett proposal is a great idea. the buffett proposal is a kind of no-brainer. >> how much does it raise? >> $160 billion over ten years. it's a piece of the puzzle. i don't think they believe honestly that the math works to get to $1.2 trillion. >> let's also talk about the reality of leadership, where it's working and where it's not. the president did campaign on raising rates, he won the election. he can say i ran on this. he's still running on that, effectively. what he's not -- if he spent as much time on saying we have a spending problem and here's how we'll attack it, explaining the spending caps passed last year, nobody knows what's in that, as he does about #my2k on twitter. i don't think we're seeing that right now. >> to your point, the president was criticized for passing on taxes in the rich in the past. i think it's a fair line in the sand to draw. but having said that, when you have
you cut into state and local governments. you cut into a whole bunch of home mortgage. >> what about the buffett proposal? >> the buffett proposal is a great idea. the buffett proposal is a kind of no-brainer. >> how much does it raise? >> $160 billion over ten years. it's a piece of the puzzle. i don't think they believe honestly that the math works to get to $1.2 trillion. >> let's also talk about the reality of leadership, where it's working and where it's not....
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these are guys who went to congress not to limit government but to stop it. so what are you going to do? we've got five democrats, five republicans who range from dick durbin of illinois, great progressive democrat, and coburn of oklahoma, a progressive conservative, and five dems, five republicans, one independent, that's a super majority. and for god's sake, the reason we were so successful is we effectively pissed off everybody in america. >> congratulations, sir. kudos. kudos to you. >> good morning. it's thursday, december 6th. welcome to "morning joe." with us on set, msnbc political analyst, former democratic congressman, harold ford jr. >> mr. professor. >> good morning. >> professor. >> and we have former treasury official and "morning joe" economic analyst, steve rattner. >> financier. >> rattner is here. i like -- and we have to go back to that. it's the truth. >> it is! >> money is money. >> in washington, msnbc and "time" senior political analyst, mark halperin. >> we saw him on the streets of d.c. yesterday, and he was very cagey. >> the mean st
these are guys who went to congress not to limit government but to stop it. so what are you going to do? we've got five democrats, five republicans who range from dick durbin of illinois, great progressive democrat, and coburn of oklahoma, a progressive conservative, and five dems, five republicans, one independent, that's a super majority. and for god's sake, the reason we were so successful is we effectively pissed off everybody in america. >> congratulations, sir. kudos. kudos to you....
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place would be the best thing we can do for our economy, which would also bring revenue to the federal government. >> there's that word certainty, which we would fully understand. congresswoman, if there is not a deal reached, would you characterize that as a massive failure on the part of congress? in fact, both sides? >> yeah, i believe we either are going to succeed together or fail together. and i go back to the model from president reagan and tip o'neill in the early '80s. as they look at tax reform as well as these entitlement programs, that's the approach we need today. proven that it can be done. and we need president obama to come to the table, provide that leadership, the republicans are willing. speaker boehner is ready today. let's get the job done. >> all right. congresswoman kathy mcmorris rodgers. thank you for coming on the show. come back, glad you're there in the negotiations talking to everybody. >> eugene robinson, final thoughts this block? >> well, you know, actually congress and the president have agreed on a huge deficit reduction package. it's called the fiscal cliff. so,
place would be the best thing we can do for our economy, which would also bring revenue to the federal government. >> there's that word certainty, which we would fully understand. congresswoman, if there is not a deal reached, would you characterize that as a massive failure on the part of congress? in fact, both sides? >> yeah, i believe we either are going to succeed together or fail together. and i go back to the model from president reagan and tip o'neill in the early '80s. as...